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Hillary's Options

by True Blue Dem, Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 02:16:12 PM EST

Hillary has a few options in front of her. I hope she takes a week off before she makes any decisions. I remember the enormous pressure put on President Bill Clinton to sign the special prosecutor law. Hillary, please take you time.

The pressure you have received to drop out was plain wrong. Especially since no has enough pledged delegates for the nomination. My hero FDR, came into the convention of 1932 with the most delegates, but did not claim the nomination until he was nominated at the convention.

If you suspend your campaign, like John Edwards, you can keep your delegates until the convention. During the next 3 months the GOP will begin its attacks. I suspect the GOP eagerness to start its attacks on Obama is a big reason the conservatives commentators are calling for you to drop out.

Team Hillary, I hope you consider suspending your campaign, but keeping your delegates. The important thing is not irreversible unity in June, but rather a Democratic victory in November.

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Re: Hillary's Options (2.00 / 1)

She is endorsing Obama this saturday.

by Cheebs on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 02:22:17 PM EST

Of course she'll suspend Saturday. (2.00 / 3)

Wouldn't you? It's what everyone expects. She'll suspend and heartily endorse Barack Obama as the next President of the United States. The keeping of the delegates is just an insurance policy in case Obama somehow becomes irrefutably unelectable between now and August.

John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.

by Travis Stark on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 02:24:36 PM EST

Re: Of course she'll suspend Saturday. (none / 0)

That's not really how it works. Please see below, but NO ONE can keep their delegates. The PDs aren't required to vote for their candidate. Its a political release. Given they are all loyalists, it is easy to give this as if something happened, she could easily rally them back to ehr side.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 05:57:30 PM EST
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FDR (2.00 / 1)

Didn't go into the convention with nearly enough delegates to secure the nomination. No one did in those days (as most delegate were awarded not by primary or caucus but by party bosses)... the nominee was always decided at the convention in those days.

We don't use the same process anymore... and today Barack Obama has more than enough delegates to claim the nomination. That is no longer up for any debate.

by Tatan on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 02:27:26 PM EST

I hope that she retains her delegates (2.00 / 4)

And uses that leverage at the convention to fight for TRUE Universal Health Care on the Democratic platform for the GE.

That's what I've got my fingers crossed for... and I think that is the main answer to "what does Hillary want?" frankly.

I think that is what she's going to be "taking to Denver"... and I'm 100% behind her in that crusade.

"Life is too short, time is too precious, and the stakes are too high to dwell on what might have been." Hillary Rodham Clinton - June 7, 2008

by twinmom on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 03:02:24 PM EST

Re: I hope that she retains her delegates (none / 0)

She won't be doing that. THAT is the type of thing that is negotiated before she endorses Obama. Since she is going to endorse him Saturday, they have already struck a deal.

And Hillary's plan is not TRUE Universal Healthcare. Neither is Obama's. They are GOOD Healthcare plan but not universal. The only true universal healthcare is Single Payer Healthcare.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 05:55:41 PM EST
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Re: Hillary's Options (2.00 / 2)

I sincerely hope that Hillary publicly declines the VP slot. She doesn't need it, she's much more powerful and able to achieve her agenda as Senate Majority Leader, a post that she should have.

Otherwise, I'd be for Hillary completing her current term in the Senate and then retiring home never to be involved politically again. The party doesn't deserve her, frankly. But that's not in her core, she will support the party and the nominee, and fight the fight.

Take all the time you want Hillary, and keep your delegates to Denver. Make the changes we need in the Democratic platform. Don't let the forces of Donna Brazile's opinions that providing equal rights for GLBT would 'undermine' the civil rights movement prevail. I'm so tired of that crap, and so are many others.

Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?

by emsprater on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 03:13:28 PM EST

Re: Hillary's Options (none / 0)

Majority leaders are elected by the senators who are sitting in the senate from that party. It's not a gift that can be handed to her . She will have to deal with the views of other senators about how she has conducted herself and whether they are prepared to have her 'lead' them. And they are legendary for doing things their way, as she already knows.

by Christy1947 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:33:33 PM EST
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Re: Hillary's Options (2.00 / 1)

I don't think you quite understand how PDs work in the party. Your comment about how she can HOLD THEM if she suspends pretty much show us that you don't.

Here is how it works...

There is NO LAW OR RULE THAT REQUIRES A PD TO VOTE FOR THEIR ASSIGNED CANDIDATE. That was abolished in 1980 I believe.

PDs are allowed to vote for whomever they want. Hillary could have a majority and still lose, because those PDs have every legal right to vote for whomever. Technically, Al GORE could end up the nominee, even on the first ballot. This is why PD slates are made up of some of the biggest candidate loyalists... to insure this doesn't happen.

When a candidate releases his or her delegates, it means they are released from POLITICAL REPERCUSSIONS. In other words, the candidate gives their blessing and the PDs don't have to worry about them getting mad or anything like that.

Even if they ARE RELEASED, because they aren't legally tied to anyone, then they could flip again. So even if Hillary released her candidates, they are still loyalists... if some major scandal happened, she could rally those loyalists and be in a very good position. What the release signifies is that she is NOT competing anymore and will not contest it at the convention.

As for Suspension, the MAIN REASON they suspend rather than drop out is because they can still fundraise to pay off debts. It has nothing to do with Delegates or anything else.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 05:53:15 PM EST

Re: Hillary's Options (none / 0)

Thank you for all your advice. We may keep it in mind as we see how things progress, however I'm sure Hillary and her supporters reserve the right to do whatever is solely in their best interests. Peace, harmony and unity but not at any price.

by superetendar on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 07:13:32 PM EST

Re: Hillary's Options (none / 0)

Your views on this as stated in your last sentence are what continues to stir the pot. Unity on your terms only. There are too many people in the party who do not trust your client to do it any other way than her own. And of course it is the other side which must compromise on all things. THAT is the major problem here, almost as much as the misandry.

by Christy1947 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:35:45 PM EST
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